Why This Powerful Debate With Andrew Wilson Exposed Christian Nationalism

One year after stepping into the Crucible debate stage with Andrew Wilson, Jacob Winograd returns to reflect — not to rehash, but to reckon. In this episode, Jacob candidly unpacks what he got right, where he fumbled, and how his thinking has evolved since going toe-to-toe with one of Christian Nationalism’s most articulate defenders. From the limits of civil government to the dangers of state-enforced virtue, this is a raw, thoughtful look at how debate, even in defeat, can sharpen conviction.

But this episode is more than a post-mortem — it’s a call to action. Jacob exposes the philosophical and theological inconsistencies in Christian Nationalist thought, from its misuse of coercive power to its dangerous flirtations with tribalism and cultural Christianity. Drawing on Scripture, economic reasoning, and his own spiritual growth, he makes the case for a better way: one rooted not in the sword of Caesar, but in the upside-down kingdom of Christ. Whether you’re skeptical of libertarianism or disillusioned with reactionary populism, this reflection is a must-listen.

Additional Resources

• Original Debate with Andrew Wilson: https://youtu.be/jykvMp_PjBM
• How People Misunderstand Covenant Theology and the Old Testament: https://libertarianchristians.com/episode/misunderstanding-covenant-theology-andrew-wilson-debate-reaction-part-2/
• What is Biblical Anarchy? https://libertarianchristians.com/episode/ep-89-what-is-biblical-anarchy-christian-politics-and-the-justified-use-of-force/