Can We Stop World War 3 By…Grilling? The Danger of Putting Faith in Politics (Bonus)

June 18, 2025
Biblical Anarchy Podcast

In this bonus episode of Biblical Anarchy, host Jacob Winograd re-releases a recent livestream from the LCI Greenroom featuring Chris Spangle, founder of the We Are Libertarians podcast network. As tensions rise with Iran and the world inches closer to another war, the conversation explores a provocative question: What if the most rational response to empire isn’t to vote harder, but to opt out entirely? Enter the grill pill—a growing mindset that suggests true resistance to tyranny begins by focusing on faith, family, localism, and sanity.

Together, Winograd and Spangle discuss the emotional, spiritual, and practical toll of national politics, the illusion of top-down solutions, and why humble stewardship may be more impactful than partisan combat. They cover burnout, Ron Paul, audience capture, political idolatry, Kuyper’s sphere sovereignty, and how Christians can rediscover their calling in a collapsing culture. Raw, reflective, and deeply relevant—this conversation asks whether it’s time to stop chasing political power and simply… Make America Grill Again.

Main Points of Discussion

Time	Topic
0:00	Cold Open — War with Iran, the collapse of empire, and the rise of the “grill pill” mindset
2:00	Meet Chris Spangle — Podcasting origins, political burnout, and early libertarian roots
6:00	What Is the Grill Pill? — Emotional detachment from national politics and reclaiming peace
10:00	Faith Over Politics — Chris’s spiritual journey and confronting political idolatry
16:00	The Hierarchy of Responsibility — Health, family, vocation, and local service before politics
22:00	Critiquing the Libertarian Movement — Mises Caucus reflections, love vs. pride, and intra-party tensions
30:00	Liberty and the Image of God — Immigration, human dignity, and Christian ethics in politics
37:00	Audience Capture and the Corruption of Influence — Social media, temptation, and integrity in messaging
43:00	Reclaiming the Church’s Witness — Cultural apologetics, pluralism, and gospel-centered political thought
50:00	Calling and Contentment — Serving your “circle,” vocational discernment, and Big Fish analogy
58:00	Libertarianism as a Tool, Not a Savior — Kingdom-first living and the limits of political solutions
1:06:00	Final Reflections — Balancing engagement and hope, trusting God with the outcomes, and building peace

Additional Resources

Ep. 82 – Ron Paul, Political Promises, and Libertarian Deviations: https://libertarianchristians.com/episode/ep-82-ron-paul-political-promises-and-libertarian-deviations-recapping-moments-from-2024-election-livestreams/
Ep. 89 – What Is Biblical Anarchy? Christian Politics and the Justified Use of Force: https://libertarianchristians.com/episode/ep-89-what-is-biblical-anarchy-christian-politics-and-the-justified-use-of-force/
Ep. 91 – Is Anarchy Chaos? Answering Objections to Biblical Anarchy Part 1: https://libertarianchristians.com/episode/ep-91-is-anarchy-chaos-answering-objections-to-biblical-anarchy-part-1/
Ep. 96 – What Would You Do? Daryl Cooper, Israel, and Rethinking World War 2: https://libertarianchristians.com/episode/ep-96-what-would-you-do-daryl-cooper-israel-and-rethinking-world-war-2/

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