Doug sits down with Robert Bortins, CEO of Classical Conversations and co-author of Woke and Weaponized: How Karl Marx Won the Battle for American Education and How We Can Win It Back. The conversation moves from Robert’s personal homeschooling story to the philosophical roots of classical Christian education, then traces how collectivist thinkers — from Robert Owen to Horace Mann to John Dewey to B.F. Skinner — engineered the modern American school system to separate children from their families and undermine Christian and libertarian foundations. Robert makes the case that compulsory government schooling is incompatible with both Scripture and liberty, and offers practical first steps for parents ready to walk away from it.






